So…we should just let them cut off our heads?!?

I don’t know if anyone has been following the comments under the previous discussion, but, we have a commenter, SpliceandDice, who turned our discussion away from the Reverend Wright and Obama to the war on terrorism in America. Somehow, these guys always manage to turn everything back around to being about the war!

You can go check out his blog at Splice and Dice. His is a blog about politics in the Philippines. According to his blog he has an undergraduate degree in philosophy. Based on his comments we have very philosophical differences regarding terrorism, the war on terrorism, war in general, and America. Rather than continue that discussion under the comments, I figured I would move it up here for public consumption and for everyone to get a chance to chime in.

Essentially, he is a pacifist. From what I gather, he believes there is no justification for war. With regards to the American response to 9/11 he has this to say:

“You don’t right a ‘wrong’ with another ‘wrong’. You don’t solve the mass murders with more mass murders.”

The problem with this statement, in my view, is that it is a matter of perspective. While it was definitely wrong for those Islamofascists to attack and kill thousands of innocent American lives simply because we are “Infidels” and non-believers and followers of a pedophile prophet, I think the American response was right. We were right to declare our war on terror, we are right to defend ourselves, and we are right to hunt them down wherever they hide, including other terror sponsoring nations. In order for him to consider our response as a “mass murder” one would have to take the position that the terrorists were right for attacking us in the first place. I don’t see how you can argue that any other way. But, I’m sure he will be able to find a way! He lives in the world of grey, whereas I see things mostly as black or white, good or evil, etc. Whether he likes it or not, there are absolutes.

When your ass is up against a wall, either you fight back or get your ass kicked. You do or you don’t. You can’t always talk your way out of every fight. Sometimes you just need to punch the bully in the nose to get him to leave you alone. In this case, the bullies ARE the Islamofascists who put America’s back up against the wall when the cowards took over our airlines and slammed them in to the towers and the pentagon killing thousands of innocent lives. Had we just backed down and decided to try to talk to these pedophile prophet pushers there would have been more attacks on American soil and probably hundreds of thousands of lives lost. These guys don’t know how to talk. The only thing they understand is cold steel and hot metal.

His other basic position is that America, collectively, is a warmongering nation, and as with other liberals, he throws Bush into the mix. When I posited that if he is against the war on terror then he must be for the terrorists, his typical response is that just because he is against the war on terror he is not for the terrorists. I don’t see how you can be otherwise. By denouncing the war on terror, that is saying that it is okay for the terrorists to get away with beheading people for being “Infidels.” If we don’t keep up the war on terror, then just how do you think we should get the terrorists to stop? By talking to them? You are quite naive to think they want to talk to us. Perhaps you need to go back and read this post here: Is Peace in the Middle East Possible? The terrorists have made it clear. They don’t want to talk to us, they want to kill us!

He further stated that the “American war on terror” is a war against nations. First – this is a GLOBAL war on terror. The Islamofascists want to take over the ENTIRE world, not just kill Americans and take over America. America is NOT the only country involved in this war. We just happen to be the ones who finally took a stance and asked our allies to grow some balls and stand up for themselves as well.

Anyway, I could go on and on just reciting everything he already stated. Just so that it doesn’t appear that I am taking his discussions out of context, I suggest you read all the comments in the previous post to see exactly what he said. Sometimes you just need to kick someone’s ass to get them to stop hitting you! In other words, while it may seem contradictory, sometimes to achieve peace, there has to be war.

UPDATE! For some reason, Splice and Dice is keeping all of his comments in the previous discussion. Hopefully, he’ll move some of that over here. You have to read this in response to one of Bradley’s responses to him. This guy really does hate America!

Here’s what Bradley said: “We are not a threat. Because we have the most power (due to WW1, WW2, and all through the 1900’s), some people see us as the plicemen of the world.”

This is Splice’s response: Yeah, go tell that to the Vietnamese, to the Chinese. Americans policing everything else in this world. Sounds like autocracy. Or auto’crazy’. You say your nation is not a threat. Ah, of course you’re not a threat because you have thousands of nukes in your backyard, and you only want your nation together with your allies to harbor those weapons of mass destructions only for your selves. How can that be a threat? Right? Right?

Wrong!

The reason you engaged Iraq into war is because of ‘suspected’ (which up to now remains that way, nothing but ‘suspected’) of having weapons of mass destruction when ALL ALONG YOUR NATION HAS THOUSANDS OF THEM.

And now you’re telling me that “some people” see your nation as “the policemen of the world”? Did the rest of the world tell your nation to police everybody else’s backyard? Or was it merely self-perception? Ha.

You see, not even the United Nations can stop your nation from committing mass murders of other civilians through war abroad. And the fact that the United Nations is against the war being waged by your nation would still tell you that you’re the “policemen of the world”? Cut the hallucinations. Wake your senses back to life.

If you think you can put a stop to terrorism by turning this world into a battlefield, if you think that the way to right a wrong is to do more wrong, if you think that the way to resolve harms is to do more harm, if you think your nation is not a threat to others while your nation is amassing nukes in swollen volumes, what can I say? Somebody truly is worse than Hitler.

So, now America is on the same field as Hitler? Wow ~ this guy must be a charter member of Moveon.org as well.

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If you don’t like it, then leave!!!

I’m getting really tired of these Muslims trying to change our American laws to suit their religious needs. If you want Sharia law then leave…go to one of those Muslim countries where you can be treated subserviently like you want to be…don’t try to use our court systems to change things just because you feel persecuted for your religion. You think you feel persecuted here because a judge tells you you have to take off your veil in court? Try living in one of those muslim Sharia Law countries where you don’t have any rights of access to the courts unless the males give you permission!!!

This idiot, Ginnah Muhammed (pictured above), goes to small claims court wearing that niqab. The judge tells her he can’t rule on her case unless he can’t observe her and tells her she has to remove it. She refuses, so the judge rules against her. Good for you, Judge!!!

First, that niqab is NOT traditional Muslim garb. The niqab is the full-body covering that is only worn by the most extreme and fundamentalist of Muslims. This is a relatively new form of garb that is not even subscribed or described in the Koran. The hijab, which is the simple veil and head-dress, is the traditional dress of the Muslim religion. The fact that she has chosen this form of dress is testament to her extremism.

She has taken this case to the Supreme Court saying her rights have been violated! Again, if you don’t like the laws here, leave! We don’t need your type of extremism here in this country. We don’t want Sharia law in our country. A judge has every right to see who he is adjudicating. How the hell does he know it is you stepping in the court each time? A judge needs to be able to observe facial and body reactions. You wearing that niqab makes his job impossible.

Yes, I know we have extremists in our Christian and Jewish religions as well..but…none of them are trying to change the laws to fit their beliefs. Your religion has to fit our laws, not the other way around. You can’t break the law under the guise of religion. The fact that you refuse to remove the niqab, which I reiterate is not traditional Muslim dress, just shows that you are not willing to conform to our laws. If you don’t like our laws, then leave.

If you don’t like it, then leave!!!

I’m getting really tired of these Muslims trying to change our American laws to suit their religious needs. If you want Sharia law then leave…go to one of those Muslim countries where you can be treated subserviently like you want to be…don’t try to use our court systems to change things just because you feel persecuted for your religion. You think you feel persecuted here because a judge tells you you have to take off your veil in court? Try living in one of those muslim Sharia Law countries where you don’t have any rights of access to the courts unless the males give you permission!!!

This idiot, Ginnah Muhammed (pictured above), goes to small claims court wearing that niqab. The judge tells her he can’t rule on her case unless he can’t observe her and tells her she has to remove it. She refuses, so the judge rules against her. Good for you, Judge!!!

First, that niqab is NOT traditional Muslim garb. The niqab is the full-body covering that is only worn by the most extreme and fundamentalist of Muslims. This is a relatively new form of garb that is not even subscribed or described in the Koran. The hijab, which is the simple veil and head-dress, is the traditional dress of the Muslim religion. The fact that she has chosen this form of dress is testament to her extremism.

She has taken this case to the Supreme Court saying her rights have been violated! Again, if you don’t like the laws here, leave! We don’t need your type of extremism here in this country. We don’t want Sharia law in our country. A judge has every right to see who he is adjudicating. How the hell does he know it is you stepping in the court each time? A judge needs to be able to observe facial and body reactions. You wearing that niqab makes his job impossible.

Yes, I know we have extremists in our Christian and Jewish religions as well..but…none of them are trying to change the laws to fit their beliefs. Your religion has to fit our laws, not the other way around. You can’t break the law under the guise of religion. The fact that you refuse to remove the niqab, which I reiterate is not traditional Muslim dress, just shows that you are not willing to conform to our laws. If you don’t like our laws, then leave.

Kids can’t even draw a picture of a freakin Cross?!?!?

What the hell is this world coming to? Check the headline link! A highschool kid in Wisconsin had to go to Federal court because his art teacher gave him a “ZERO” for drawing this picture over there to the right!

“Because it featured a cross and a biblical reference.”

Okay…but get this….

“The lawsuit alleges other students were allowed to draw “demonic” images and asks a judge to declare a class policy prohibiting religion in art unconstitutional.”

Okay..I see..its okay for our kids to draw freakin’ devils and other demonic images..but they can’t have God in their life and want to share “The Word” through art? I really really hate our public school system! Keep God out at all costs! But..hey..what the hell…sex, drugs, rock-n-roll, and the devil are all too welcomed! Damned socialist school administrators and teachers!

If you can take your kids out of the public schools and home school them…do it! If you can afford it..put them in a private school..whatever you do..get them the hell out of the public school system. They’re being indoctrinated with socialist propaganda every day!

Oh…but it gets better…..

His teacher, Julie Millin, asked him to remove the reference to the Bible, saying students were making remarks about it. He refused, and she gave him a zero on the project.

Millin showed the student a policy for the class that prohibited any violence, blood, sexual connotations or religious beliefs in artwork. The lawsuit claims Millin told the boy he had signed away his constitutional rights when he signed the policy at the beginning of the semester.

His teacher, Julie Millin, asked him to remove the reference to the Bible, saying students were making remarks about it. He refused, and she gave him a zero on the project.

He signed his constitutional rights away? To the school? What the hell kind of bullshit is that?

Later that day, assistant principal Cale Jackson told the boy his religious expression infringed on other students’ rights.

You just can’t make this shit up! His Constitutional Right to FREEDOM of RELIGION infringed on other students’ rights? Okay..so..if he signed away his constitutional rights..doesn’t that mean the other students did too? So…how could he infringe on their rights..IF THEY HAVE NONE???? OH..that’s right…only the Christian signed away his constitutional rights. Did I mention I hate public schools?

But…that was just the beginning…here is the real meat of the story with regards to this frakkin school…

The lawsuit also alleges school officials allow other religious items and artwork to be displayed on campus.

A Buddha and Hindu figurines are on display in a social studies classroom, the lawsuit claims, adding the teacher passionately teaches Hindu principles to students.

In addition, a replica of Michaelangelo’s “The Creation of Man” is displayed at the school’s entrance, a picture of a six-limbed Hindu deity is in the school’s hallway and a drawing of a robed sorcerer hangs on a hallway bulletin board.

Drawings of Medusa, the Grim Reaper with a scythe and a being with a horned head and protruding tongue hang in the art room and demonic masks are displayed in the metals room, the lawsuit alleges.

So…like I said..the only one who “signed his constitutional rights” away in this school was the kid who believes in God and that Christ is his savior. Still thinkin’ there might not be a war against Christians right now? Oh…its not only with the Islamofascist Muslims…its with our socialist public schools!

Seriously..check this one out over here at the Rottweiler 7 year old kid suspended for sexual harrassment. I’m telling ya…there’s a war against the parents and everything we believe in going on in our schools!

Kids can’t even draw a picture of a freakin Cross?!?!?

What the hell is this world coming to? Check the headline link! A highschool kid in Wisconsin had to go to Federal court because his art teacher gave him a “ZERO” for drawing this picture over there to the right!

“Because it featured a cross and a biblical reference.”

Okay…but get this….

“The lawsuit alleges other students were allowed to draw “demonic” images and asks a judge to declare a class policy prohibiting religion in art unconstitutional.”

Okay..I see..its okay for our kids to draw freakin’ devils and other demonic images..but they can’t have God in their life and want to share “The Word” through art? I really really hate our public school system! Keep God out at all costs! But..hey..what the hell…sex, drugs, rock-n-roll, and the devil are all too welcomed! Damned socialist school administrators and teachers!

If you can take your kids out of the public schools and home school them…do it! If you can afford it..put them in a private school..whatever you do..get them the hell out of the public school system. They’re being indoctrinated with socialist propaganda every day!

Oh…but it gets better…..

His teacher, Julie Millin, asked him to remove the reference to the Bible, saying students were making remarks about it. He refused, and she gave him a zero on the project.

Millin showed the student a policy for the class that prohibited any violence, blood, sexual connotations or religious beliefs in artwork. The lawsuit claims Millin told the boy he had signed away his constitutional rights when he signed the policy at the beginning of the semester.

His teacher, Julie Millin, asked him to remove the reference to the Bible, saying students were making remarks about it. He refused, and she gave him a zero on the project.

He signed his constitutional rights away? To the school? What the hell kind of bullshit is that?

Later that day, assistant principal Cale Jackson told the boy his religious expression infringed on other students’ rights.

You just can’t make this shit up! His Constitutional Right to FREEDOM of RELIGION infringed on other students’ rights? Okay..so..if he signed away his constitutional rights..doesn’t that mean the other students did too? So…how could he infringe on their rights..IF THEY HAVE NONE???? OH..that’s right…only the Christian signed away his constitutional rights. Did I mention I hate public schools?

But…that was just the beginning…here is the real meat of the story with regards to this frakkin school…

The lawsuit also alleges school officials allow other religious items and artwork to be displayed on campus.

A Buddha and Hindu figurines are on display in a social studies classroom, the lawsuit claims, adding the teacher passionately teaches Hindu principles to students.

In addition, a replica of Michaelangelo’s “The Creation of Man” is displayed at the school’s entrance, a picture of a six-limbed Hindu deity is in the school’s hallway and a drawing of a robed sorcerer hangs on a hallway bulletin board.

Drawings of Medusa, the Grim Reaper with a scythe and a being with a horned head and protruding tongue hang in the art room and demonic masks are displayed in the metals room, the lawsuit alleges.

So…like I said..the only one who “signed his constitutional rights” away in this school was the kid who believes in God and that Christ is his savior. Still thinkin’ there might not be a war against Christians right now? Oh…its not only with the Islamofascist Muslims…its with our socialist public schools!

Seriously..check this one out over here at the Rottweiler 7 year old kid suspended for sexual harrassment. I’m telling ya…there’s a war against the parents and everything we believe in going on in our schools!

Those filthy Islamofascist Bastards!

Well…at least it’s a relief from the NOT KNOWING for the family of Army Sgt. Keith Matthew “Matt” Maupin.

Sadly, as reported over at Texas Fred’s the Army has conclusively identified the remains of this soldier. This fine young man was executed by some cowardly Islamofascists almost four years ago.

Head on over to Texas Fred’s and read the rest of the story.

R.I.P. Matt.

Another Friend of the U.S.?

Yemen! Isn’t this supposed to be one of the places the CIA had secret prisons? Or, better yet, I distinctly remember the lefties saying Yemen is one of the places where the U.S. was renditioning “enemy combatants”? Based on THIS alone I would have to say they were all wrong!

A 41 year old American citizen, turned muslim terrorist, wanted by the F.B.I. on terrorism charges just up and walked out of a Yemeni court..untouched. Okay..so..what is so extraordinary about this? How about the fact that he had previously escaped from a maximum security prison after having been tried and found guilty on terrorism charges!

“In February 2006, he and 22 other suspected members of Al Qaeda broke out of a high-security prison in the Yemeni capital. Alarmed, the State Department soon offered $5 million for information leading to his arrest. Yemeni officials said the men tunneled their way from the prison to the bathroom of a neighboring mosque.”

Yeah..but that’s not the kicker…..there’s more….

“Mr. Elbaneh, for instance, surrendered to Yemeni authorities last May after 15 months on the run and a lengthy negotiation. The agreement, like many others of its kind, included a pledge by Mr. Elbaneh not to carry out any terrorist acts in Yemen. In exchange, the authorities promised that he would not be sent back to prison, and would not be sent to the United States, which has sought his extradition since 2002.
Six months later, when Mr. Elbaneh and 31 others were sentenced in connection with another crime — two suicide bombings that took place in 2006 — he apparently was allowed to stay home, under loose house arrest. It is not clear whether he will serve any time on that sentence, which is now being appealed.”

Wow! They took his word that he wouldn’t commit any further crimes and let him out on house arrest. Hmmm..do you think this terrorist asshole honored his word? Hmmm..time will tell. But, here’s the best part about this whole story…

“He added that after his prison escape he surrendered directly to Yemen’s president, Ali Abdullah Saleh, who absolved him of any more jail time.”

Wonderful. How’s that for cooperation? The freakin’ President of that shithole country absolves this terrorist scum from any jail time. As mentioned previously, they’ve also promised that he won’t be sent back to the U.S. Did I mention…

“With the judge still sitting speechless, Mr. Elbaneh, who once worked in a cheese factory in Lackawanna, N.Y., then walked out of the courthouse. No one tried to stop him.”

Got that? NO ONE TRIED TO STOP HIM!!!!!!! Other than being tried and convicted as a terrorist having a part in a suicide-bombing attack in 2006

“He is one of a group of Yemeni-American men from Lackawanna who attended a Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan in 2001.”

Right..with friends like these..who needs enemies?

UPDATE

Check this out over here..it looks like Lt. Col Rick Francona Scooped the New York Times on this one..he had it posted a whole week earlier..and with his perspective:

Middle East Perspectives: Yemen – State sponsor of terrorism?

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